Saturday, December 10, 2011

12/2 °X° DVD Giveaway, HÖLE Gangbang 12/23, and Fair Balance – Post #37





I can learn to resist
Anything but temptation
I can learn to co-exist
With anything but pain
I can learn to compromise
Anything but my desires
I can learn to get along
With all the things I can’t explain

                    ~”Resist,” N. Peart ‘96



Saturday 12/10/11 3:26 P.M.
At home

Guys sometimes ask me how I’m able to have all these people in my home.  “Doesn’t it get to you after a while?”  Nope, it doesn’t, because of the guys who come.  For the most part, they’re really cool.  My guys are usually thoughtful and respectful men, with whom I could happily spend time with outside of the parties; they seem to be of good character, exemplifying the qualities I dig: non-dramatic, non-manipulative, confident in themselves, and responsible for their own happiness.  They just happen to be pigs, more or less, who are affirmative, eager, and somewhat brave about their sexuality.  I see these orgies as presenting the most men of boyfriend material.

And they continually restore my faith in humanity after day-to-day folks too often drag it down.


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The °X° filmed gangbang was an enormous success.  Everyone got here by 8:45, the fucking started almost immediately and didn’t stop until the party wound down, and it seemed every guy had a great time.  I didn’t record the Heat Index levels for this one, but I can tell you that it was all 3s and 4s (yes, even 4s!).  Besides the actual slingfucking, other really hot parts were the early moments when guys were sitting and standing around the sling, staring at the hole and beating off; and when, while the slingee was being abused by the slinger, guys surrounding the sling were getting fucked while standing up.  I also got a lot of amazing footage, which will be given away on DVDCheck the schedule to see which parties.  The release party will be the Sunday 12/11 ERUPTIÖN orgy.

The next °X° will be a safe sex gangbang, in January.  I don’t produce DVDs that mix bare and safe, and those DVDs will be given out at PEÄK parties. 

Options, choices.  Respect.

The gangbang concept is one which guys really love and I’ve regularly been asked if I’ll plan one.  Since the first one went so well (even as it was filmed), we’re going to have the non-filmed kind, HÖLE, on Friday 12/23.  Like the first °X°, the first HÖLE will also be bareback.  Having a short doors-open window of time helps to ensure a large number of guys all at once, so we’ll do it that way again for HÖLE. Doors 8PM-9PM.

°X° was the first time I worked with designated bottoms and it actually went very smoothly.  There are three potential caveats to having designated bottoms:

1)  They need to show up
2)  Hurt feelings (his and mine) if not “chosen” to be a designated bottom
3)  Some can be picky about who fucks them

The third one is relatively easy.  Pickiness is easily spotted.  I realize there’s nothing wrong with being selective based on one’s personal tastes – I certainly am – but it’s got to be more gangbang and less “I’ll let you and you and you fuck me.” 

For reliability, I’ve considered having them put down money up front, to be returned upon arrival.  Seems too complicated.  For °X°, I more-or-less hoped they’d show up.  Two out of the three did, which worked quite well, but therein lies a fourth potential caveat: the third guy (who’s been to several of my parties over two years), may not come to another party out of embarrassment that he didn’t show.  He’s certainly welcome to attend more orgies here; I just won’t schedule him as a designated bottom is all.

Hurt feelings and perceived elitism are the toughest ones for me, and the main reasons I hadn’t had this type of party until now. There’s no power trip in this for me.  The only person I want power over is myself.  That is enough, and that is hard enough.  And the idea that I am somehow eligible to judge other guys’ sexiness really stinks.  The guy I think about isn’t so much the one who's like, Oh well I gave it a try, but for the one who thinks, Maybe I’m not as cute as I thought I was, or worse, I guess I’m not as attractive as I used to be.  Don’t give me, nor anyone else, that much power yo.

If I’m going to run with this gangbang concept, I have to get over it.  And so would the men “undesignated.”

If only for the sake of being progressive.

One of the first porn videos I ever saw was a hooker spread out on a desk in an office.  The guys were...well...normal guys you’d see in an office.  One by one, they fucked her, while the others watched and beat off, waiting their turn.  One of the guys seemed a little shy, so another guy said, “It’s OK, you can fuck her, too.”  So he did.

That is hot!  That’s what I want!  It wasn’t an assembly line of cookie-cut models out of GQ magazine; they were regular men, some better looking than others.  That, to me, is a gangbang.

I want bottoms who’d rather be in that sling than anywhere else.  I want the guy who’s going to have the time of his life.  I want the Dream Come True for him. 

I want the bottom who jerks off fantasizing about being raped by bunch of strangers.

Because that’s what it is, y’know.

Both designated bottoms at °X° were perfect, and perfectly fuckable.  One of them wore a hood because he loved the concept of being fucked by one random man after another.  The other one...the look in his eyes was priceless.  He was the proverbial little kid on Christmas morning. 

Both of them could play with just about anyone they’d want, but their trips are more along the lines of the random, “Just put it in me.” 

There are other guys like that.  It’s my job to find them.

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If you’re interested in being a designated bottom, please email pictures depicting your ass, body, and face, instead of links to dudesnude or whatever.  The ass gets posted on the blog, the face isn’t shared with anyone.  They must accurately represent what you look like now, current or not.  Please also tell me if you play safe or bare.  I will either reply with a respectful “not what I’m looking for” or with a questionnaire, which will help me to determine where your head’s at and how reliable you seem to me.


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In pharmaceutical marketing, there is a term called, “fair balance.”  It’s the fine print in a drug ad and that part in the commercial where the speaker lowers voice, quickly noting the side effects. 

I feel like I ought to add some fair balance to the entry I posted last month, about VGLs, volunteering myself as one of them.  I only received one response to it, which was positive and thoughtful, but this is for the guys who may have thought, Oh please, Mary, get over yourself

I am over myself. 

But here’s some fair balance, anyway.

I’m never the most exciting (nor endowed) guy at sex parties.  In fact, I’m usually standing in a corner with my arms folded. I’m shy, I’m quiet, I’m insecure.   It usually takes me a while to get going, if I ever get going.  In this regard, I likely come off as a bit intimidating and not exactly the life of the party.  I don’t mean to be that way, but it is what it is.

These are not good qualities for a good orgy. 

However, once if I do get going, I’ll fuck the living biatch out of the guy, or guys, I’m playing with...


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Whatever it is you may celebrate, I hope yours is the best you’ve ever had, this month especially.



The Örgy Guy

Saturday, November 12, 2011

Sympathy for the Dick and The XTube Party Returns – Post #36




Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand

Ignorance and prejudice
And fear
Walk hand-in-hand
                    ~”Witch Hunt,” N. Peart, ‘81



Saturday 11/12/11 2:16 P.M.
At home

This is not a rant at how most commercials and sitcoms portray men as stupid oafs who can’t even get out of bed in the morning without a woman telling them how to do it.

Rather, it’s about what it’s sometimes like for VGL guys at mixed sex parties.

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When it comes to sex, I have never thought I was too good for anyone; nor have I ever thought someone was too good for me.  I don’t assume any particular guy is going to be into me, even as the host of the party.  I know what I look like, and I realize that that does not entitle me to anything.  There are lots of good looking gay men who do think that way, but I am not one of them, and those guys usually don’t come to my parties.

I first realized I might be attractive when I was 16 years old.  My older sister had taken my class picture to the salon at which she worked, and the gay men who worked there were fawning over it.  At 21 years old, when I first started going to gay bars, I was surprised at how much attention I was drawing. 

But not all of that attention was good.

The especially desperate bold guys who approached me would often get pissed off if I wouldn’t bite.  Some would actually try to argue their way into getting me to go home with them.  I learned very quickly how to avoid those guys.  If I could tell that someone was positioning himself near me, getting ready to break the ice, I would walk away before he had the chance; I turned down every drink that was bought for me by “that guy at the end of the bar”; and letting a guy down easily became less important than escaping.  It became quite apparent to me that “I only wanted to talk to you” was a load of manipulative bullshit; no man ever wants to “just talk” to someone he’s attracted to, gay or straight. 

VGL men (and women) are not necessarily snobby and standoffish if they’re not engaging with everyone who comes their way.  A regular Joe might get hit on once or twice, but VGLs are hit on from the moment they walk in the door, to the moment they walk out.  Defense mechanisms become as necessary as they are apparent.

And we’re not dicks, either.  We just need to manage our situation before it manages us.

Which brings me back to sex parties.  Parties that screen solely on looks usually end up with guys who aren’t used to making the first move, so there’s a lot of standing around.  I screen more for personality, fit, and whether I think he’ll have a good time here (as well as height/weight proportional), which means I get a lot of men who really love to jump in and “get ‘er done.”  As much as I want these guys, it’s important to realize that some men – particularly the VGLs – want to feel comfortable and not “attacked.”  As a patron of sex parties, it usually takes me a while to get going, which means I do a lot of “cock blocking,” in the meantime.  That doesn’t make me a snob.


Most of my guys are hip to that, but I know that some aren’t.  I hope no one has an attitude with someone just because he doesn’t want to play (at that moment), whoever he is and whoever you are.  Sex parties, unlike bars, are not conducive to proferring explanations, so it’s important to get it and move on.


“But it’s a sex party!”  Nice try.

I want this to be a safe haven for everyone.

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The XTube Party is back, reformatted and slimmed down to °X°Friday, December 2nd, will be the first one.  Look for details in the next email.  It’s basically filming gangbangs.

The last filmed party we had was on 8/8/10 at Perry Street.  I wasn’t happy with how the party went, so I never went through the footage...until the other day.  Some very hot stuff yo, especially the gangbang portions.  I’m giving away a disc of that 8/8 footage at a party/parties to be announced, so you’ll have to come if you want to see it; it won’t be uploaded on XTube. 

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The only Thursday of the year that we don’t have a party is on Thanksgiving, so there’s no orgy here on November 24th.  We will have our 3rd annual New Year’s Eve party on Friday, December 31st.

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When I first heard those lines at the top of this post, almost 30 years ago, I knew how I wanted to live my life.  I haven’t always been successful at it.

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The Örgy Guy

Friday, October 7, 2011

Quick Note: Name Change

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We’re changing the name of the 11PM lights out orgies from BLÅCKØUT to ECLÏPSE.  Seems someone else is using it already.


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The Örgy Guy

Sunday, October 2, 2011

BLÅCKØUTS and Returning Regulars – Post #35


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“Even if you have, even if you need
I don’t mean to stare, we don’t have to breed
We could plant a house, we could build a tree
I don’t even care, we could have all three”
                    ~K. Cobain, ‘91



Sunday 10/2/11 12:36 P.M.
At home

It’s weird that I love the fall, even though I pretty much hated school.  Maybe I’m a masochist at heart.  Or maybe it’s because hockey season starts.

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For at least the last year, I’ve meant to blog on the subject of returning regulars.  That is, guys who were regulars, but stopped coming for whatever reason, then come back.  I’d kept this idea on the back burner.

But then I realized something, the other night, when I was walking back to my apartment with food I’d picked up at Veselka.  I passed a bodega I used to go to regularly and saw the cashier standing outside.  I felt a little embarrassed that I haven’t been going there as much, as though I’d been disloyal to him.  As I turned the corner on East 7th, I realized that if I felt that way about a store clerk whose name I don’t even know, then how must former regulars feel about returning here even after we’d developed more of a relationship? 

Other than some basic courtesy, I look for nothing more from my guys than their doing whatever makes them happy.  If that means not coming for a while, then that’s what I want for them.  Men that bring eager energy are part of that which makes a hot orgy, while stale energy is stale energy.

The other night, someone came who hadn’t been here since New Year’s Eve (when we were at the Perry St. location).  He told me he’d just broken up with someone he met at that party, another regular whom I also hadn’t seen. 

Guys get boyfriends, guys move, guys get bored.  There are any number of reasons why a guy might stop coming.

I understand that your sex life, your life, has nothing to do with loyalty to me.  As far as I’m concerned, it’s all about you.  If you come to every other orgy for two or three months, then stop coming, I’m not bothered by it.  I just figure you’re doing what you have to do or whatever makes you happy.

When a guy does return, often he’ll have this look on his face like I’m going to give him this “where have you been?” look.  Nah-ah.  I usually just smile broadly and am happy to see him. 

Incidentally, a guy might also get that look if he’s come to a few in a row...like I’m going to judge him.  Heck, if I can regularly aid you on your sexual trip, that’s great, and it also means I must be doing something right.

Just know that you’re free to return without feeling uncomfortable. 

And we hope to see you again soon.

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In October, and likely beyond, every evening party will become a blackout orgy from 11PM to 2AM.  Lights Out is a very popular concept for sex parties and one I haven’t tried yet.  Tonight will be the first one.

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Let me know if you’re a web designer and interested in helping me to develop theorgyguy.com.  It’s a solid concept and should be fun to do.  It’s also a paying gig.

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One bit of housecleaning: shoot your jizz where you’re at, but anyone who throws his used condom anywhere but in the rather large and conspicuous trash can, will be told to leave and not come back.  I’ve got a sign up in the bathroom, but a few guys are still doing it.  Throw ‘em on your own floor.


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The Örgy Guy


Sunday, September 25, 2011

Nights 'til 2AM, Blackouts at 11PM

This is an updated version of the post I put last weekend.


All night time parties in October have been extended until 2AM. This is for the guys who’ve been coming later.  It'll also be lights out at 11PM.  Calling these blackouts.  So Tuesdays and Thursdays are 6PM to 2AM, lights out at 11PM.  Sundays are now 8PM-2AM, blackout also at 11PM.



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The Örgy Guy

Sunday, September 11, 2011

Tweetless – Post #34


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“With the lights out, it’s less dangerous
Here we are now, entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now, entertain us”
               ~K. Cobain, ‘91



Satday 9/10/11 12:02 P.M.
Back Patio

10 years since 9/11.  20 years since the release of “Smells Like Teen Spirit.”  My how time flies.


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There are two main reasons I’ve tweeted the orgies for about a year: to keep guys from texting/calling/emailing me during parties to see how it’s going — “Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” — and because I just really dig being original.  As far as I know, no one had ever tweeted an orgy before. 

But I’m not going to regularly tweet the parties, anymore, at least not for the foreseeable future. 

For one thing, it tends to feel like I’m reporting to someone, like I’m checking in.  That just really isn’t part of my trip.

The other reason is something I’d considered when I first started tweeting them, which is the danger of a negative self-fulfilling prophecy.  If I tweet that it’s a low turnout, early on, most guys who read that are understandably not going to come.  But the first hour’s turnout, good or bad, should not dictate the rest of the night.  The inflow/outflow of guys ought to be more organic and spontaneous, which are qualities I strive to achieve here.

I’m aware that I could use Twitter to manipulate the turnout by stating that there’s a huge number of guys by 9PM, even if there isn’t (if it manages to increase numbers, everyone gains, right?).  I can’t do that.  The very notion of someone coming because I said the place is packed, then arriving to see it isn’t true, is anathema to me.  Can’t do it.  I really hate dealing with liars, as a patron, so I’m not about to become one.  And it really doesn’t fit the head of my parties, which is as little bullshit as possible.  I want honest and cool, which must start with me.

I’ll continue to use Twitter to mention some fun, hot, or interesting occurances, and to let you know that the party’s winding down (or ended), but that’ll probably be it.

For now...


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The PEÄK parties have been drawing a large turnout, so we’re adding them to two Sundays in September.  Please check the schedule.  Last September was the busiest month we’ve ever had, so this month ought to be a good one.  Tuesdays and Thursdays will continue to be 6PM – 1AM.



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The Örgy Guy


Saturday, August 27, 2011

Hurricane: Party Cancelled

Just writing the word "cancelled" is weird.  I've only ever cancelled one party, two years ago.  But! there's a friggin' hurricane coming, soooooo....  No orgy here on Sunday, 8/28/11.  Next one is PEÄK on Tuesday 8/30. So the 310th one is cancelled.

Have a safe storm, everyone!

Sunday, August 7, 2011

Science of Arrival Times – Post #33


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“If you ever need anything please don’t
Hesitate to ask someone else first
I’m too busy acting like I’m not naïve
I’ve seen it all, I was here first”
               ~K. Cobain, ‘93


Been listening to a lot of Nirvana lately, going back to my early/mid 20s.  The only thing missing is the car to drive in, headbanging and scream-singing the songs.  Well, actually the angst is missing too.  Gratefully.  I still relate to Kurt in that I’m always on the outside, not looking in.


Saturday 8/6/11 9:55 P.M.
At home, watching I Love Lucy. You?

This past week, we started the Tuesday and Thursday parties at 6PM, which drew a very nice turnout.  We’ll keep the 6PM start time for those two orgies, but instead of ending at midnight, we’ll keep it the way it was: 1AM. So, 6PM-1AM. This ought to bring two distinct waves, per party, instead of one.


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As many of you know, of those who’ve been here, I record each guy’s arrival time and departure time.  I used to construct a chart of each party, to visually show arrivals and departures.  That was too much; I didn’t need to do all that.

But, in attempting to determine the usefulness of starting parties early, I’ve begun to do it a little differently.  I calculate how many guys come, per half hour time slot (8:00 to 8:30, for example).  Then, I take the average for that time slot and apply it to a line graph.  I began recording arrival and departure times about 15 months ago, and have so far done the calculations for the past 9 months.  I’ve also broken them out as Perry Street parties compared to E7th, which is when we stopped the DWYW first hour policy.

I rarely give specific attendance numbers for a specific reason, so you’ll only be privy to the patterns.

Also, I iterate that these are arrival times, not the total number of guys who are here.


Tuesday & Thursday Parties, 8PM to 1AM...

...have the same overall numbers, but notice how the first hour slot has changed.  There have been 47 E7th parties, a relatively small sample, but enough to establish reliable patterns.


Sunday Parties...

...are a little different, but the first hour difference is consistent with Tuesday/Thursday.  Dig how the lines merge.


Friday Nooners...

...are only four parties old, so the sample is small and the line should start to become less wavy.  But, you can see how guys are tending to get here on the hour.



Tuesday/Thursday 6PM-12AM...

...is a very small sample (two parties’ worth), but I’m including it.  At some point, I’ll compare it to the graph that’ll represent several of them, to see how it’s “matured.”


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If you want to know how my orgies are, before attending one, you should read this blog and follow me on Twitter, or ask someone who’s been to a few and doesn’t have an agenda.


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The Örgy Guy





Sunday, July 3, 2011

How to Host (Part 4): Marketing – Post #32

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“Just between us
I think it’s time for us to recognize
The differences we sometimes fear to show
Just between us
I think it’s time for us to realize
The spaces in between
Leave room for you and I to grow”
               ~N. Peart 1979


Saturday 7/2/11 4:23 P.M.
My Backyard Patio

This is the 4th installment of the How to Host series: Marketing


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Advertising

There are basically three ways to get the word out about your parties: handing out cards, word-of-mouth, and the internet.  65% of the guys who attend my parties are from the internet, 15% referral, 14% from other parties, and 6% are my friends.

I personally don’t see anything wrong with handing out cards at other guys’ parties, as long as it’s discreet and you’re not dissing the party you’re at.  But that’s me.  Guys have done it at my orgies and I don’t mind it at all.  I haven’t handed out cards at other parties for about a year; I’d rather be playing, not working.  I don’t really need a card, anyway, since my theorgyguy email address is easy to remember.  You could also hand out cards at a bar, but you might get thrown out or it could be left around for anyone to see, and that includes the sidewalk.  Some guys will politely take the card, then leave it on the bar or drop it on the floor.  Or lose it in the supermarket.

Word-of-mouth referrals are very good because these men have presumably been told that they would enjoy your particular party. I prefer to do the screening, but if that doesn’t happen, hopefully the guy who’s doing the referring is aware and mindful of what I’m looking for.  Usually they are.

The internet is probably where you’ll do most of your marketing.  A lot of the guys on the internet are window shoppers; they’ve got dick-in-hand, getting off on the fantasy of an orgy; they’ll seek the info, but won’t actually come, inflating your list.  But many of them do come, and they’ll probably make up the bulk of your attendees.  I mostly use two sites: one for safe sex and one for bareback.  I do not recommend that you use Craig’s List. Some of my favorite regulars have come from when I used to post on CL, but the number of flakes and undesirables trolling it, as well as people who don’t like the fact that group sex parties even exist, made me decide not to put my message there.  Those folks should not have your information.

Target your message, as best you can, to those you want to receive your message.  You wouldn’t post your sex party ad on a billboard, where anyone can just happen upon it.  Have the wisdom to apply discretion.  Only post your message to guys who are cool enough to dig, and who are going out of their way to locate a specific site dedicated to your type of piggy and uninhibited sex.  Like this blog!

And totally not like Craig’s List, yo.


Your Message

The orgies I host, by and large, are exactly the orgies I want to host.  The proper message has made all the difference.

3-4 weekly parties are a lot of hours, and if I’m not enjoying the experience, I shouldn’t be doing it.  I really do enjoy hosting, and I’ve never once dreaded hosting on any given evening.  That’s a pretty cool thing to be able to say, and I’m only able to say it because I work hard to get the right guys to come.

When I first starting hosting orgies, I didn’t focus a whole lot on the types of men I wanted; I don’t recall even thinking about it.  I was just hoping enough guys would come.  Quantity over quality, at least until I got things settled.

Over time, and with some experience, I began to notice that not every man who attends a sex party is there for the same thing.  Guys weren’t digging each other as much as I’d wanted.  It required me to be more definitive about the type of orgy I wanted and to develop a clear message about it, as well as a list of men who seemed to match the types of guys I’d want to spend my evening with.

Clearly identify who and what you’re looking for, then base your messages on it.

Here’s an example of a message I use:

Thanks for RSVPing. All info gets emailed, so please reply with your email address. Parties are in the East Village on Sundays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays, with occasional Friday afternoons.  Once you’ve received the email, then you’re on the list and wouldn’t need to RSVP for future parties. Over 280 orgies hosted. Note that this is a party for height/weight proportional men over 35. 15-30 guys. Average age is 43. Young guys come, but they’re usually sophisticated and into older guys. This is an orgy, not a stand & pose party with guys who take themselves too seriously. Known for intensity and vibe. Racially diverse. Guys range from great shape to not great shape.  Two playrooms (sling included) and a secluded outdoor space for more sex or hanging out. Emails are limited, so to see the schedule, please check the blog. No self-absorbed, high maintenance, mooches, or flakes please.   Thanks.  I’m Scott.

Pretty specific.  If a dude’s not into it, he likely won’t give me his email address.  Men who know what my trip is are the best men to have here, for me and for everyone else at the party.  Now and again, a guy comes who obviously didn’t read the info, but they’re few and usually get removed from the list (which I assume is fine by them).  But by and large, that red paragraph is predominantly and consistently who I get here.  And it’s not like I’m looking for 100 guys to come.  15-30 guys is perfect for me and for what I can handle, by myself (which is the only way I can do this).

If you want a specific type of guy, for a specific type of party, then you should create that party, target those guys. Whatever your hard-on desires.  It’s your creation.  Just try be smart, grown up, and respectful about it.


Email

Most hosts send out email reminders.  After my list hit a certain number (I forget what), Google stopped allowing me to send mass emails.  It looked like spam.  So I broke it up into three separate email addresses.  That worked for a little while.  Now I send 10%, each day.  That way, each member only gets an email once every ten days or so.  That seems to keep everyone happy, including Google.

You can also try Google or Yahoo Groups. 


Your Brand

Your brand is your personality, which is presumably close to the personality of the guys you want to come (so don’t be an asshole). Whenever you create an online profile, you’re essentially branding yourself.  The site provides some specific areas for you to check off and gives you space to write about yourself, to “sell” what you’ve got to guys who are hopefully your type.  Whether we know it or not, we are advertising our own brands: 


Im a happy guy who just want to make everyone smiles!!11!

hey

If you don’t unlock yours THEN DON’T BOTHER ASKING ME TO!!!!!

Sup?

I am just a bitch hole for your abuse.

I am the hottest fucker you will ever see in your whole fucking life and that includes if ur the first fucking cocksucker to ever fucking time travel. Fuck.

Please fuck me SIR!

no grampas ;>)

Sup?

Um...just checking things out...so...y’know...

prTy?


You get the point. 

You can do different things to convey the personality of the party, beyond the ads and emails.  You can be creative.  I use the umlaut (Ö) to stand out and have some fun.  I think I’m the only one with this kind of men’s blog, who posts the course of the party on Twitter, and who collects different types of data for groovy, useful graphs.

It’s all meant to create a sanctuary for like-minded men to have a great time: an orgy.

281 of them and counting. 

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The first cock4lunch was flipping awesome.  Like magical awesome.  If you were here, you went home happy.  There are two more scheduled for Fridays in July: the 8th and the 22nd, from 12 noon to 4PM.  Men started coming at noon, and most got here before 1PM, but plenty got here between 1PM and 3PM.

I’m going to try having one of the weekday parties start earlier, probably at 6PM.  There are a lot of guys who can’t wait until later in the evening.  A lot.  That’ll probably happen in August.


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The Örgy Guy